Reply With Quoteget an internal or external tape drive, it seems the best way to go
im putting together a server for a company, and i dont want to get SCSI (save them money for going IDE, since they are a small company), but, i want to know what a good backup solution would be. so, here are the choices:
A. find a tape backup (ideas anybody?)
B. external hard drive (maxtor has a one touch backup thing that seems promising)
C. raid-1 hard drives (only thing that scares me is the fact that if there is a power surge, or it drops a power supply, both hard drives could be destroyed.
keep in mind that this is a windows server :/
get an internal or external tape drive, it seems the best way to go
I'd advise you against going with tape drives if you are not doing SCSI or a newer IDE format, or if the company is not willing to have someone spend many hours a week troubleshooting backup software.
If it is a small company, my suggestion would be to get an extenal data storage (sounds like that is what the Maxtor is) or another server/pc with a share, and schedule a batch file that copies the data during the night to that storage medium.
I do backups for my company, and we use Dell-branded SCSI tape drives, and tape libraries. However, besides being way expensive, I spend an average of a fifth of my time troubleshooting, upgrading or managing the software/hardware.
If they don't have someone who can spend the time maintaining the backup system, you should try to keep it as simple as possible.
whoops, forgot about the no SCSI.....
ok, so an external hard drive + two ide hard drives in raid 1. does that sound good? now how about some backup software? any ideas?
Well, you might want to make sure the backup device is available even if the original server/host is not. That would mean that the device should have its own interface. Of course, it depends on the level of complexity you want to use, and how much you want to spend.
An external drive might be the most basic solution, since you can always plug it into another machine if the host dies.
However, this means the data is unavailable for some time.
I know there are some storage devices that are accesible on their own through tcp/ip. this might be a good solution.
Or just make it another server with its own OS.
Regarding software, again it depends on how complex you want to go, and how much you want to spend.
The most basic is a batch file that would copy.ftp your data every night. that is free.
Windows has a built-in backup tool. Although I have not used it, I heard is ok.
If you want to spend money on some backup software, I personally like Veritas Backup Exec. Is quite good and has a bunch of features. It is also a bit costly.
HTH
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Well, you might want to make sure the backup device is available even if the original server/host is not. That would mean that the device should have its own interface. Of course, it depends on the level of complexity you want to use, and how much you want to spend.
An external drive might be the most basic solution, since you can always plug it into another machine if the host dies.
However, this means the data is unavailable for some time.
I know there are some storage devices that are accesible on their own through tcp/ip. this might be a good solution.
Or just make it another server with its own OS.
Regarding software, again it depends on how complex you want to go, and how much you want to spend.
The most basic is a batch file that would copy.ftp your data every night. that is free.
Windows has a built-in backup tool. Although I have not used it, I heard is ok.
If you want to spend money on some backup software, I personally like Veritas Backup Exec. Is quite good and has a bunch of features. It is also a bit costly.
HTH
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can you let me know those tcp/ip devices? ive seen some, but i dont know how good they really are.
as for a second server, basicly out of the question AOY. I think the windows backup software should be enough, as i dont feel like FTP in all honasty. I played with windows backup, as long as i have a SMB share to copy to, i can do it pretty easily. which means some of those tcp/ip storage devices might work well. as for those external hard drives, they are usually USB or firewire, bot h of which i could access the data as soon as I got there..
there are lots of ways i could go .. its hard to pick one
Just use a NAS system and be done with it.
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im putting together a server for a company, and i dont want to get SCSI (save them money for going IDE, since they are a small company), but, i want to know what a good backup solution would be. so, here are the choices:
A. find a tape backup (ideas anybody?)
B. external hard drive (maxtor has a one touch backup thing that seems promising)
C. raid-1 hard drives (only thing that scares me is the fact that if there is a power surge, or it drops a power supply, both hard drives could be destroyed.
keep in mind that this is a windows server :/
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Hey Terg,
I have a similar setup, i am backing up several windows servers.
What backup software are you going to use? I use veritas on one and the backup utility that came with the OS on the other.
I backup to both tape and an external harddrive. I guess it really depends on what YOU want to do and what is easiest to do. I have an external harddrive, an 80 gig Maxtor USB that i love, and i have an HP tape drive.
It also depends on how much data your actually backing up....
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[quote author=TeRG link=board=4;threadid=8277;start=0#msg75042 date=1071022107]
im putting together a server for a company, and i dont want to get SCSI (save them money for going IDE, since they are a small company), but, i want to know what a good backup solution would be. so, here are the choices:
A. find a tape backup (ideas anybody?)
B. external hard drive (maxtor has a one touch backup thing that seems promising)
C. raid-1 hard drives (only thing that scares me is the fact that if there is a power surge, or it drops a power supply, both hard drives could be destroyed.
keep in mind that this is a windows server :/
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Hey Terg,
I have a similar setup, i am backing up several windows servers.
What backup software are you going to use? I use veritas on one and the backup utility that came with the OS on the other.
I backup to both tape and an external harddrive. I guess it really depends on what YOU want to do and what is easiest to do. I have an external harddrive, an 80 gig Maxtor USB that i love, and i have an HP tape drive.
It also depends on how much data your actually backing up....
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at first it shouldnt be much more then a half a gig or so, and after a year or two, it could increase to up to 10. i'll probobly use the windows backup tool, because it -seems- to be able to only backup data that has changed since the first backup, the idea is only so if the server drops the drives, they can get the data.
what do you think about those maxtor one touch backup drives?
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