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    Need serious help

    i need serious help for a serious situation. I have been wondering what I want to do with my life. I love computers and I also love web development, building pcs, and networking them(network knowledge limited). I know basic perl, and great deal of html. I plan on studying all the languages I can, php, perl, asp, xml, etc along with sql and other databases and get to be frequent with them. Out of everything I have done with computers, I love working with networks and web development the most. I just don't know the job market that well. Will I make big bucks from it, or at least a good living doing what I love? I will familiar myself as much as I can with Linux and Windows as servers. I changed my major from CS to MIS. However I do not think it will matter. I do not think my gpa will be high enough to get financial aid this semester and I cannot return to college because of it in the event that it happens. My question is, do I have to attend college and get that degree to make a living. Can I take the full time job and pay my student loans and parents off, and in turn the next year go to a tech school and specialize in networking and development and be certified. Do you get degrees from tech schools like ITT or Devry or what not. I am having a hard time figuring what I should do in the event I do not return to college this fall.

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    Well, first off depending on where you live, the job market can be extremely healthy for a Webdesigner. As for network stuff, I would suggest that you find a local shop and errr volunteer to assist with installs, setups etc. (This will get you in the door). Network management as most will tell you sucks from a job perspective. You sit around and wait for the network to hose itself then you are jumping through your A$$ to get it back up because the entire company wants to kill you. What I am saying is that network management is a good paying job but unless you are willing to give up weekends, holidays etc might not be the job for you. I would continue to persue college as a degree is entry level for most businesses and especially US Fed Gov (if your from the US). If you are an american and your father/mother was a disabled veteran you might be able to get tuition assistance through the Veterans Administration.

    Just thought I would throw those ideas out.

    Hope it helps ???

    Ras

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    I've been out of work now for over two months I have an AS degree in computer programming or "Software Engineer" whatever makes your whisker tingle best, and I've worked in manual labor for the last two years ( this is mostly because I'm probably incompetent ). Any how I found that US Job Bank, is very helpful it has a forecast of what the job market may look like in your state in a few years ( California has lots of openings for cooks, and may have lots of openings for tech support in a few years : ).

    [quote author=BurntAsh link=board=14;threadid=7001;start=0#65014 date=1052715878]
    tech school
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    I'd recommend going the traditional route, usually tech schools are filled with bad instructors, and can be as expensive as any university. Have you considered going to community college ( junior college )? It's alot cheaper and you can transfer your credits if you ever want to move up to a private university.

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    [quote author=socomm link=board=14;threadid=7001;start=0#65031 date=1052749529]
    I've been out of work now for over two months I have an AS degree in computer programming or "Software Engineer" whatever makes your whisker tingle best, and I've worked in manual labor for the last two years ( this is mostly because I'm probably incompetent ). Any how I found that US Job Bank, is very helpful it has a forecast of what the job market may look like in your state in a few years ( California has lots of openings for cooks, and may have lots of openings for tech support in a few years : ).

    [quote author=BurntAsh link=board=14;threadid=7001;start=0#65014 date=1052715878]
    tech school
    [/quote]
    I'd recommend going the traditional route, usually tech schools are filled with bad instructors, and can be as expensive as any university. Have you considered going to community college ( junior college )? It's alot cheaper and you can transfer your credits if you ever want to move up to a private university.
    [/quote]
    I agree with him on this. As I see it, a 4 year degree will open more doors than a tech degree.
    I have a B. A. in Psychology, which doesn't have anything to do with computers. However, it helped me get a Network Ops. Specialist (System Admin) job.

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    I was in your exact postion two years ago. No piece of paper, but plenty of hands on. Eventually I got my current job with Lockheed Martin, but based on my past radar/AEGIS experience. It was here that I learned the difference between experience, and a degree with experience. Its somewhere around the $25000 a year level. Now, mountainman goes to college part time.

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    I am from chicago, il, usa. ya there is a community college around I can go to. what sucks is in 3 of the 4 courses I took this semester are all D's(the system here is, ABCDF) which are non-transferrable credits and are what bring my gpa down to losing my financial aid. if I get a job this summer my parents will probably take my money to make up for the financial, so there is still hope I can stay in college. it is hard for me to know what to do while i am at school. i started off as a CS major, but i hate c++ and cant stand programming it and dont want to for a living and i dropped the class because i was way too far behind in it. also my friend graduated with a bachelors in CS and never got a job, his ass went on unemployment for a year. so it looks like the job market sucks a lot right now, it is hard to do what you want to do and still make a living ya know?

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    BurntAsh were you just typing pages out of my diary?? Man you're story is JUST like mine. I also started out CompSci. Soon found myself drowning in C++, so I switched to MIS. I like Web Developement and networking, don't care which of the 2 I get into as long as I can work with computers. Well I've been out of school for a year now... And I'm a secretary for UNC Charlotte's Sociology and Anthropology Department. The market, yeah it SUCKS A$$. EVERYONE wants experience, no one wants to take the time to train people as they need them. Of course I don't blame them, I've been told that, loyalty in the IT world is non-existent. So why should they take the time to train someone. Which really puts someone like myself at a serious disadvantage... I want to work and if I like the place I'm not gonna be leaving anytime soon! But oh well I guess... I did just put my resume in for an entry level position at UNC Charlotte in the IT department so, here's to wishing!!!!

    Good luck dude in finding something that you want to do. Whatever you do try to get internships or whatever while you are in college. A definate foot in the door after your out! Plus the experience you get while your there!!!!!

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    Yeah, Internship is the way to go. They won't ask you for experience to be an intern.
    I'd say try to stay in college. The market sucks everywhere. But a Bachelors degree will be an advantage if an opportunity arises.

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    Also, perhaps try some volunteer work in the comp. labs.

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    i am an ee and have a pretty good job, but many people who are brighter than me have been RIFed. i would not trade my 4 year degree for anything else out there, well a masters or phd, but no tech schools, i knew many more tech school people who were RIFed than the engineers - and it sucks.

    i don't think any job is secure - there are so many forign workers it is laughable, and more jobs are being shipped over seas.

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