I'm just gonna do exactly that right now, mutter along and say whatever pops into my head, theres heaps I want to say but don't know how to, or what I actually do want to say. I suppose what is really bothering me most atm is that I have a friend in hospital, and not just the normal part of hospital, the psyc ward of the hospital. She tried to kill herself and now she is in there, and I don't know what to say to someone who doesn't want to live. I've tried, and I'm holding out hope that there is something I can do, but I don't think there is. She seems to have it in her head that its the best thing for her to do, the solution to all her problems etc, and no matter what I say she doesn't seem to change at all. What can you do? How can people think that suicide is the answer to all their problems, to me its one of the most selfish things you can possibly do, you solve your own problems and then cause so much grief and suffering to everyone who knew you. I'm so worried that as soon as she gets out of the hospital shes going to try again, and you don't usually fail twice so I don't know what to do, I know that there probably is nothing I can do, but its so hard just to sit around and wait, and hope that things get better. I don't beleive in all this bullshit that people spin about how to help people, and I don't think that the drugs they give people work, and I am most definitely again ECT, but I don't know what to do. I mean I've talked to her, and tried to make her see that shes got things good in her life, and she knows she does, but just isn't happy. As bad as somethings get in life they can only get better is what I've always thought, and how I continue to think, I mean when people do something like this it seems totally stupid. Why do people do it? Does anyone really know? And does anyone know how we can prevent it? Apparently NZ has one of the highest rates of youth suicide in the world, and there is all this bullshit about, all these programs to help people, but none of them seem to work. Its easy to say that you have to do this, or you have to do that, but it just doesn't work. There has to be something fundamentally wrong in a society where young people try to kill themselves. I think rather that trying with just these small programs designed to help the "at risk" people we need to look further into our society and see where the problems arise from, and try to prevent that happening. I'm sorry to dump all this crap on you guys if you've read it all, but its just something that really bothers me. I think that everyone thinks about suicide, its normal to, but its not normal to act on it. Thanks for letting me rant on here
CP


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