Hamond

[stryder144]

I think there is a bigger chance of having black kids than white if one parent is black and one is white. Something about the gene responsible for black skin/hair being dominant. This means that people with white skin/blonde hair will eventually become extinct. Rather depressing. I like white people, especially blondes. I will be dead before that happens though.

I´m not 100% sure but I think it´s true. How often do you see mixed couples with white kids who have blonde hair? Almost (?) never.

I agree with your overall assessment. I like white people well enough, too. And, yes, it would be rather depressing to see the beauty of humanity destroyed (diversity is great, imho). Blondes are ok, I like brunettes more (of course, I'm a blonde, so I guess familiarity bred contempt in my case ). To each their own. I don't understand cultural/racial/ethnic bigotry very much (I've dated Asians, Middle-Easterners, Blacks, and a few whites. I guess I was an equal opportunity dater ;D. My wife actively discourages my dating other people, so I am pretty much "stuck" with her ).

Having lived all around the world, I have had the unique opportunity to see many cultures up close and personal. I can honestly say that the diversity of languages, race, ethnicity, religion, etc is quite beautiful. It makes me appreciate my own even more, while also making me painfully aware of my own cultures short-comings and short-sightedness.

[Hamond]

Having lived all around the world, I have had the unique opportunity to see many cultures up close and personal. I can honestly say that the diversity of languages, race, ethnicity, religion, etc is quite beautiful. It makes me appreciate my own even more, while also making me painfully aware of my own cultures short-comings and short-sightedness.

it kinda makes you wonder why so many people are encouraging others to racially and culturally mix when the end result would inevitably be the destruction of everything that makes us unique...doesn't it?

there are so many things that my ancestors did that I am very proud of and I would not want their accomplishments to be rubbed away or forgotten in the name of political correctness.

I have no problem whatsoever with people of different nationalities and beliefs on a personal level (if you treat me decently and with respect, you'll get the exact same thing back), but when it boils down to building a future for my children and my descendants, I want to make sure that I'm making the right choice for them.

[stryder144]

it kinda makes you wonder why so many people are encouraging others to racially and culturally mix when the end result would inevitably be the destruction of everything that makes us unique...doesn't it?

Some people are so in love with being politically correct that they lose sight of just how beautiful we truly are. It does make me wonder.

there are so many things that my ancestors did that I am very proud of and I would not want their accomplishments to be rubbed away or forgotten in the name of political correctness.

Being of Germanic decent, there are a lot of good things and a lot of bad things about my ancestors and their accomplishments. I will teach my children about the good and the bad of being a German-American. It is a fine line, though. I don't want them to get too hung up on either the good or the bad. There has to be some balance. Hopefully, I will provide them with that balance.

I have no problem whatsoever with people of different nationalities and beliefs on a personal level (if you treat me decently and with respect, you'll get the exact same thing back), but when it boils down to building a future for my children and my descendants, I want to make sure that I'm making the right choice for them.

Nice is as nice does, I guess. I try to respect everyone, irregardless of what they say, do, or think. Hopefully, they will afford me the same courtesy. If not, oh well.

Socialism is a tough row to hoe. It has many elements to it that make sense. That is why I advocate a blending of the best of Socialism, democratic thinking, republican thinking (i.e. Plato's Republic), etc. It makes more sense to me.

[Hamond]

Some people are so in love with being politically correct that they lose sight of just how beautiful we truly are. It does make me wonder.

perhaps one day our cultures will evolve to the point where we can accept that others around us will always be different and that that is a good thing (usually).

Being of Germanic decent, there are a lot of good things and a lot of bad things about my ancestors and their accomplishments. I will teach my children about the good and the bad of being a German-American. It is a fine line, though. I don't want them to get too hung up on either the good or the bad. There has to be some balance. Hopefully, I will provide them with that balance.

yea, I hear ya there. I'm of Polish, Mexican, Native American, and Spanish descent; there are no doubt LOTS of bad things that my ancestors have done, but I'm well aware that there are a number of good things that they've done that have helped form the world into what it is today. I'd like my children to learn about as many cultures, religions, political systems, and languages as possible...perhaps if they are properly educated about such things, they'll be able to think for themselves and make intelligent life decisions. (or at least I hope that they will be able to)

Nice is as nice does, I guess. I try to respect everyone, irregardless of what they say, do, or think. Hopefully, they will afford me the same courtesy. If not, oh well.

eh, I tend to ignore assholes and pay attention to everyone that seems to be decent regardless of what they are. sadly, this is a bit of a challenge because there are way too many assholes in the world.

Socialism is a tough row to hoe. It has many elements to it that make sense. That is why I advocate a blending of the best of Socialism, democratic thinking, republican thinking (i.e. Plato's Republic), etc. It makes more sense to me.

hrm, I don't really think that I want to debate the merits or pitfalls of socialism, mainly because it's a very touchy subject and also because I don't know enough about it just yet to give you any educated responses (sorry); however, your comment about blending the different political systems does make a bit of sense (I remember reading Plato's Republic and thinking that such a system would be pretty spiffy). A lot of the things I've read on socialism, marxism, communism, capitalism, etc., suggest that each one has some merits of their own, but that there is always something missing from them that could be supplemented by an aspect from another line of thinking.

I suppose that one day our descendants will figure out something that works...or maybe they'll just nuke the snot out of each other when they realise that they can't make everybody else think the same way as them.

[kenshi]

I think there is a bigger chance of having black kids than white if one parent is black and one is white. Something about the gene responsible for black skin/hair being dominant. This means that people with white skin/blonde hair will eventually become extinct. Rather depressing. I like white people, especially blondes. I will be dead before that happens though.

I´m not 100% sure but I think it´s true. How often do you see mixed couples with white kids who have blonde hair? Almost (?) never.

I'm pretty sure skin color is co-dominate. It's just like you can breed a red and white rose and you end up with a pink one. If black skin was a dominate gene, then a black and white couple would have a completely black child, whereas in real life, it's about halfway between like the rose.

Also, it's much harder to get rid of recessive genes than dominate ones. A blonde person definately has nothing but blonde genes, since a brown gene would override it. So if two blonde people have a kid, it's definately going to be blonde. But if two brown people have a kid, they might each have inactive blonde genes that they pass to their kid. Hair has more than two colors, so it's a little more complicated than that, but I'm just demonstrating the basics of dominate and recessive genes.

[Feztaa]

This means that people with white skin/blonde hair will eventually become extinct.

That's possible, but it has nothing to do with gene dominance. As long as white people are fucking, there will always be more white people. The same with any other race. If white people's birth rates are higher than the other races, and death rates are lower, then we will slowly overtake the entire planet until the other races are gone... see how this works?

(not that I want to take over the planet... I have nothing against other races. I'm just saying gene dominance has little to do with what races will exist in the future).

[ursidae]

I'm pretty sure skin color is co-dominate. It's just like you can breed a red and white rose and you end up with a pink one. If black skin was a dominate gene, then a black and white couple would have a completely black child, whereas in real life, it's about halfway between like the rose.

Also, it's much harder to get rid of recessive genes than dominate ones. A blonde person definately has nothing but blonde genes, since a brown gene would override it. So if two blonde people have a kid, it's definately going to be blonde. But if two brown people have a kid, they might each have inactive blonde genes that they pass to their kid. Hair has more than two colors, so it's a little more complicated than that, but I'm just demonstrating the basics of dominate and recessive genes.

Sounds like you know more about that than me.

That's possible, but it has nothing to do with gene dominance. As long as white people are fucking, there will always be more white people. The same with any other race. If white people's birth rates are higher than the other races, and death rates are lower, then we will slowly overtake the entire planet until the other races are gone... see how this works?

Yes but the birth rates are really low here in Europe now and it will probably stay that way. Russia will lose half of its population within 50 years. Countries like Italy are not in a much better situation.

If the birth rates don´t go up we will have to allow millions of people from asia and the middle east to come here. There are a lot of tension between immigrants and "native" europeans now (and also between different immigrant groups) and I don´t think there will be less tension in the future. Our politicians are too spineless to do anything about these problems (both low birth rates and.integration).

[stryder144]

perhaps one day our cultures will evolve to the point where we can accept that others around us will always be different and that that is a good thing (usually).


yea, I hear ya there. I'm of Polish, Mexican, Native American, and Spanish descent; there are no doubt LOTS of bad things that my ancestors have done, but I'm well aware that there are a number of good things that they've done that have helped form the world into what it is today. I'd like my children to learn about as many cultures, religions, political systems, and languages as possible...perhaps if they are properly educated about such things, they'll be able to think for themselves and make intelligent life decisions. (or at least I hope that they will be able to)


eh, I tend to ignore assholes and pay attention to everyone that seems to be decent regardless of what they are. sadly, this is a bit of a challenge because there are way too many assholes in the world.


hrm, I don't really think that I want to debate the merits or pitfalls of socialism, mainly because it's a very touchy subject and also because I don't know enough about it just yet to give you any educated responses (sorry); however, your comment about blending the different political systems does make a bit of sense (I remember reading Plato's Republic and thinking that such a system would be pretty spiffy). A lot of the things I've read on socialism, marxism, communism, capitalism, etc., suggest that each one has some merits of their own, but that there is always something missing from them that could be supplemented by an aspect from another line of thinking.

I suppose that one day our descendants will figure out something that works...or maybe they'll just nuke the snot out of each other when they realise that they can't make everybody else think the same way as them.

I am inclined to believe that my decendants will just push the button!

It is arrogence to believe that one's political philosophy is the "right one" and that every other one is "wrong". I believe that, as far as political systems go, mixing them makes more sense than trying to isolate them. Any time that you have to rely on human nature to propel a society forward, there are going to be problems and inconsistencies.

Wow...most of my ancestors are of Germanic decent (English, German, German speaking area of Czech republic). So, it is easy to understand that I look like Hitler's "poster child". I even have the required blue eyes and blonde hair, for pete's sake!

Cheers

[Ashcrow]

I think there is a bigger chance of having black kids than white if one parent is black and one is white. Something about the gene responsible for black skin/hair being dominant.

It's co-dominant

This means that people with white skin/blonde hair will eventually become extinct. Pretty depressing. I like white people, especially blondes. I will be dead before that happens though.

I´m not 100% sure but I think it´s true. How often do you see mixed couples with white kids who have blonde hair? Almost (?) never.

Your correct in saying that eventually there will be no more people with blond hair, blue eyes (green/hazel might be gone as well), and light colored skin. Eye color and hair color both favor the dark colors (brown and black) while skin color is a mixture. Obviously, some day way, way, way in the future we will have brownish-black haired, brown eyed tan people.

Sounds weird but it's a scientific fact (as far as theories go).

[stryder144]

Sounds weird but it's a scientific fact (as far as theories go).

Ok, Ashcrow, you had me up until you wrote that line. Is it a fact or a theory? Hmmm...it can't be both.