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  1. #31
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    Re: Major Trouble for the Bush Administration

    All hogwash, poppycock and nonsense.The present Administration has no prob over the election. Those blasted ballots have been counted frontwards,backwards,sideways upside down,inside out and probably during a full moon and Bush won no matter how slight it was.Things being as they are now if that flake Gore was President , he would have surrendered to Bin Laden and we would be converting to Islam at bayonet point.

  2. #32

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    Uh?? I'm oppressed??? Last time I looked I had the freedom of speech, freedom to associate, right to vote, etc. Geez aren't these the same rights that Americans have, so can some one please explain exactly how I'm oppressed. Because if I am I would really like to know!! :
    Do you have the freedom to bear arms? You're not as free as Americans.

    Last time I looked the murder rate here in Canada was a fraction of what it was in the U.S. The approximate # of murders in Canada last year was about 600 with only about 40% of them being gun related. So a whopping 240 people last year were killed by guns. Lets take Texas on the other hand. Texas has about ten million people less than Canada, but according to 1998 stats had about 1300 murders, of which almost 1000 of them were gun related. So I really don't see how you can argue that gun control equals an increase in crime, etc.
    You've proven two things: first that despite anti-gun laws, there are still many people killed by guns, people who had no chance of defending themselves, and second that in Canada, there are more non-gun related murders than in Texas. What does that say? Canadians are just a bunch of peace-loving hippies and it has nothing to do with anti-gun laws. It's probably some special miracle water or something.

    And last time I looked Canada was just as or if not more ethnically diverse as the U.S. and we have a lower crime and murder rate, so I really don't think that arguement flies.
    Like I said, Canadians are peace-loving hippies unlike most Americans. But I bet your murder rate (per population) is still higher than a place like a middle eastern country where 99% of the population is muslims.

  3. #33

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    I don't have any access to guns, and neither do my classmates. I don't have to spend every second worrying that I could be shot, and that's a very nice feeling.
    I really don't spend much time worrying about it either. As the previous statistics show, I have less than a 0.01% chance of getting murdered at all. It's about 0.005% by a gun. The fact that I'm not a drug dealer or pimp or gang member or anything like that makes it more like a 0.00001% chance. I guess those statistics don't show that most people who get shot and murdered did something which practically asks to get shot. Nope, I'm not extremely worried. Canadian statistics aren't far behind though despite the anti-gun laws. I find that humorous. But you know what I'm scared of? Swimming pools. Those things are death just waiting to happen. I have even more than a 0.01% chance of dying in one of those, except that I'm so scared of dying in one that I'll never go near one. I wish the government would make them illegal so I couldn't drown in one.

  4. #34
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    Re: Major Trouble for the Bush Administration


    Do you have the freedom to bear arms? You're not as free as Americans.
    Do you have the right to smoke weed? You´re not as free as the dutch.

    Do you have the right to euthanasia? Again, you are not as free as the dutch.

    There are probably alot of things that are legal in european countries that are illegal in usa, does that mean americans are oppressed?

  5. #35

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    Do you have the right to smoke weed? You´re not as free as the dutch.

    Do you have the right to euthanasia? Again, you are not as free as the dutch.

    There are probably alot of things that are legal in european countries that are illegal in usa, does that mean americans are oppressed?
    Yes, it does. We should be able to smoke weed on our own property. We should be able to kill ourselves on our own property. We should be able to do any damn thing we want on our own property that doesn't disturb other people. (And when I say disturb, I don't mean that the neighbors just don't like the idea of you smoking weed in the privacy of your own home where they can't even tell.) Practically every country oppresses its people, but some oppress them to less degree than others. I consider having self-protection taken away from me more oppressing than not being able to smoke weed.

  6. #36

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    We should be able to smoke weed on our own property.
    ... provided that we agree that it voids our health insurance - no insurance company will pay you if you deliberately drive your car into a wall. Why should they pay for our medical treatment when we deliberately harm ourselves ? The same applies to smoking cigarettes, etc. Unless it's explicitly stated in your insurance policy that it covers smoking weed or tobacco.

  7. #37

    Re: Major Trouble for the Bush Administration


    ... provided that we agree that it voids our health insurance - no insurance company will pay you if you deliberately drive your car into a wall. Why should they pay for our medical treatment when we deliberately harm ourselves ? The same applies to smoking cigarettes, etc. Unless it's explicitly stated in your insurance policy that it covers smoking weed or tobacco.
    Smoking weed is a lot healthier than smoking tobacco (unless you smoke weed and jump in a car or something like that). That's another topic though. But I agree that health insurance companies should have the choice whether or not to cover smokers. And maybe if they do cover them, it's at a higher cost. But who would admit to smoking weed just so they could get a rise in insurance costs? I think we're too easy on cigarette smokers. Apparently paying about $3 a day for a pack of cigarettes (or however much the person smokes) isn't enough. Apparently dying a horrible death isn't enough. This may sound mean even though it's actually nice, but we need to screw cigarette smokers over majorly so they'll stop smoking. But again, I guess that's another topic.

  8. #38
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    Re: Major Trouble for the Bush Administration

    Here in Sweden (and most of Europe I think) everyone has got a health insurance, we don´t have to pay it ourselves*, so those bloody smokers cost every taxpayer a lot of money.

    It has been discussed whether they should pay extra if they need treatment for something caused by smoking. I think they should.

    *We pay through taxes though.

  9. #39

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    Here in Sweden (and most of Europe I think) everyone has got a health insurance, we don´t have to pay it ourselves*, so those bloody smokers cost every taxpayer a lot of money.
    This is why I brought this subject here - in Poland it's the same :-/

  10. #40

    Re: Major Trouble for the Bush Administration

    That's the drawback of leaning towards socialism.

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