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    Judge: Microsoft must give states Windows code

    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...soft_code_dc_2


    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. will have to supply the computer code for its Windows program to a group of states seeking stiffer antitrust sanctions against the software giant, a federal judge ruled on Friday.


    Nine state attorneys general had argued that they needed to see the Windows source code in order to verify Microsoft's claim it could not offer a simpler version of the Windows personal computer operating system, stripped of features like the Internet Explorer browser.

    "It seems to me that if your side has access to it, then the other side, frankly, should have access to it," U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly told Microsoft's lawyers in a conference call with attorneys from both sides.

    A transcript of the conversation was later made available.

    Microsoft had tried to argue that the states' request for the code, made on Tuesday, came too late before hearings due to begin next month on whether additional sanctions should apply to the company for violating U.S. antitrust laws.

    Under the judge's order, Microsoft would provide access to the latest code for Windows, including Windows XP (news - web sites) embedded, a version the states believe shows the software can be easily customized.

    An appeals court in June agreed with a lower court that Microsoft had illegally maintained its monopoly in personal computer operating systems, but rejected splitting the company in two to prevent future violations.

    Among the illegal tactics cited by the court was the "commingling" of the Windows source code with add-on programs.

    The U.S. Justice Department (news - web sites) and another nine states that had joined in the case have agreed to a settlement with Microsoft that would, among other things, give computer makers more flexibility to feature rival software on their machines.

    Microsoft has balked at the additional demands of the states that have not settled. They want to give competitors easy access to the detailed Windows code and ensure Microsoft's Office suite of business programs works with other software platforms.

    The proposed settlement and the suggestions for stronger sanctions are to be considered by Kollar-Kotelly in separate, but roughly parallel proceedings.

    HEARINGS TO BEGIN MARCH 6

    The judge on Friday set March 6 as the date to begin hearings on whether the settlement is in the public interest.

    She said she had still not decided whether to allow third parties, such as the states that have not settled, to make presentations at the settlement hearing. "If I did, it probably would be like a 10-minute hearing per party," Kollar-Kotelly said.

    Hearings on the rival proposals of the states that have not settled are tentatively due to begin on March 11.

    Kollar-Kotelly has so far given no sign she will pass judgement on settlement before hearing the arguments of the dissenting states.

    In addition to handing over the Windows code, the states that have not settled had also asked the judge to appoint a technical expert to help provide impartial opinions on complex technical issues raised by the case.

    Kollar-Kotelly said there was too little time to find the right person for that role.

    She also urged both sides to shorten their witness lists.

    Kollar-Kotelly proposed meeting with attorneys for both sides next week to discuss issues still not resolved between the parties over the format of the remedy hearings.

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    omg.. you just KNOW the code will get out somehow

    seems that ignorance on the public's side and MS making stupid excuses might just kill them... it's been proven without the help of having the windows code that you can get rid of explorer, hasn't it?

    things should get pretty exciting

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    Re: Judge: Microsoft must give states Windows code

    omg.. you just KNOW the code will get out somehow
    Can you say MS Office ports to Linux ?

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    Can you say MS Office ports to Linux ?
    Do we really want that?

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    Do we really want that?
    IMNSHO, definitely not!

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    Do we really want that?
    Actually, I do. I just had my AbiWord crashed on me and everything I've written for half hour is gone.... > . At least I can recover in Windows with Office. :

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    Re: Judge: Microsoft must give states Windows code

    Let me get this one straight... you don't like crashes, so you want to run Microsoft products? Dude, what are you smoking? Can I have some?

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    Let me get this one straight... you don't like crashes, so you want to run Microsoft products? Dude, what are you smoking? Can I have some?
    What year do you live in? Microsoft has improved their products dude. Windows 2000 and XP are stable, so is Office.

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    What year do you live in? *Microsoft has improved their products dude. *Windows 2000 and XP are stable, so is Office.
    Yep, Windows 2000 is very, very stable.

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    Re: Judge: Microsoft must give states Windows code

    they make good software
    their OS just sucks

    Win2000 is more stable, but it does blue screen.

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