Not if you look at it from this angle -- to God, time is meaningless. Think about it, if a year is the same as a day and millenium, time is a non-issue.From 2 Pet. 3:8: "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day." (NIV). Therefore it is conveiveable that both the big bang and creationism are correct.
Not trying to pick on you, just adding to our little thought discussion :)
That's actually the point I was trying to make, I guess I didn't clarify it well enough.
Not if you look at it from this angle -- to God, time is meaningless. *Think about it, if a year is the same as a day and millenium, time is a non-issue. *
Not trying to pick on you, just adding to our little thought discussion
Why use days as a reference? How much harder is it to understand 7 billion years than 7 days? If he says 7 days but means 7 thousand/million/billion years, isn't that harder to understand than if he just said 7 thousand/million/billion years to begin with?As far as making the universe in days idea; days is simply used as a reference for time for our minds to understand, supposedly. From 2 Pet. 3:8: "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day." (NIV). Therefore it is conveiveable that both the big bang and creationism are correct.
Why didn't he (whoever wrote it) write how long time it really took instead of being so vague? Because he made it all up? Or was it to have a way out if people started to question it?
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Smart human: "Ok, how long time did it really take?"
Bible worshiper: "7 days, just like it says in the holy book." *Raises hands, looks up to the sky with a perverted smile*
Smart human: "7 days? So he created several million (billion?) galaxies, each with many billion stars and a buttload of other things, like all lifeforms etc., in 7 days!? Sounds a bit short to me."
Bible worshiper: "Yeah, it does doesn't it. Lets say 7 thousand years then! God works in mysterious ways you know." *Raises hands again and with the same perverted smile he stares up to where his master lives*
Smart human: "We have found fossiles much older than that. Not to mention rocks. There are rocks out there that are billions of years old. So many billions of years must have passed since he created the universe, and supposedly us at the same time, yet our recorded history is less than 10 thousand years. Are we really such slow learners?"
Bible worshiper: "How the hell would I know!! I just worship his words as they are written in the holy book." *Never put down his hands so he just applies the perverted smile yet again*
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Some times the bible is not to be taken literally, some times religious people point out certain parts of the bible that are to be taken literally. It's interesting to note that parts that sounds ridiculous in todays society, are not to be taken literally, and parts that can still be used to "prove" their views are to be taken literally.
I find it amazing that people still worship the bible, it's so full of holes that it makes an install of win98 seem tight. The bible will probably be patched countless times before humanity lets christianity die.
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One day is 24h or 1440m or 86400s, not " a thousand years".
Doesn't that mean that he created everything at the same time? Then why say it took a certain amount of time? Just mention how long ago this happened.
Not if you look at it from this angle -- to God, time is meaningless. *Think about it, if a year is the same as a day and millenium, time is a non-issue. *
Not trying to pick on you, just adding to our little thought discussion
If everything wasn't created at the same time, but one thing after another, doesn't this imply a linear timeline? Then how can time be meaningless to him?
What does TRVHT mean?Science is not faith. *That is a bunk statement. *Science, by its very nature, is not about TRVTH.
Time is meaningless because it's god, don't you know. But see, if you were a christian this is something you would accept on faith. I can't accept that answer (faith). It is conceivable that either answer could be correct if we momentarily accept the hypothesis that time is meaningless to god (either everything was created at once or over a long span of time, apparently only visible by humans).
Doesn't that mean that he created everything at the same time? Then why say it took a certain amount of time? Just mention how long ago this happened.
If everything wasn't created at the same time, but one thing after another, doesn't this imply a linear timeline? Then how can time be meaningless to him?
The concept of "God" is merely an idea to calm people, keep them under control, and give them assurance in death, since it is the one unknown that no one will ever gain knowledge about until the actual event occurs.
Hell, for all we know about God, creation, and death, it could merely be a "Matrix," of sorts. What's to say when I die I see "End Simulation," take a heatset off and realize that this entire life was fake?
No I would try to figure out how someone can do such a thing. Just because someone does something we don't understand how the hell he/she/it does it, doesn't mean he/she/it is god. Not even if he/she/it claims to be god.Let me ask this. *Suppose at one moment, God's voice boomed out of the heavens and declared his existence. *Suppose everyone on Earth heard him (in their own languages, or whatever is necessary for them to hear and understand). *However, this voice was not picked up on any recording equipment. *What would you believe then?
It might be members of a species far superior to us, who just wants to fool us. So while a big part of humanity runs around screaming "God is here! God is here!", they are laughing their asses (or whatever they use to take a dump) off up in their spaceship.
That's a very disturbing thought. I really, and I mean *really*, don't want anyone to see me during those extra 5 minutes in the shower.
Hell, for all we know about God, creation, and death, it could merely be a "Matrix," of sorts. What's to say when I die I see "End Simulation," take a heatset off and realize that this entire life was fake?
I wonder if they would tape it? *shudder* I hope not.
But then again, if the simulation is fake, what's to say this is your real body?
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