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    FreeBSD or OpenBSD

    I am going to be installing one of these at some stage over the next month or so, which one would you recommend for a Uni student with too much time on his hands? And why

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    Re: FreeBSD or OpenBSD

    OpenBSD, for many reasons:

    - The source code is a perfect example of how to do safe programming, so it will benifit you
    - The whole OS is smaller and cleaner, so it will be easier for you to get into it
    - The security offered by OpenBSD will keep hackers at bay
    - OpenBSD comes with a _GREAT_ packet filter: pf
    - There are less idiots on the mailing lists (yes, this is a factor)
    - The FAQ is the most excellent I'Ve ever seen with MANY MANY answers and it serves as a HOWTO at some points even. *The man pages are also clear and clean.
    - OpenBSD is less complete than FreeBSD, so *you* could help the project by making new ports/packages or writing patches, etc.
    - A lot of features are included in the default (GENERIC) kernel, so you don't need to always recompile.
    - You will also have an OS that gives a VERY professionnal feel to you as an admin
    - Services such as BIND and Apache are installed by default (though they are not enabled by default). *They've been audited for security problems and they are installed in a chroot which means if an attacker breaks in using either, he has nothing to touch besides your http or name server.
    - The FTP server has a nice option with which you can see users with commands such as 'who' and 'w'
    - Installation takes 10 to 15 minutes once you've seen it once or twice.
    - The fact that there are no remote exploit means you can wait for a new official release before upgrading
    - They use a lot of cryptography: the blowfish cipher for login, mod_ssl is installed by default for Apache, memory and swap can be crypted
    - Its file system (FFS) supports softupdates which is better than journaling
    - There's a project called 'Stephanie' to bring to OpenBSD features from trusted operating systems. *You can for example make access lists and you can put flags on some files, such as append-only, no-remove, etc. and these flags also affect the root account. *And to remove a flag, you must reboot the system, so an attacked would be immediately noticed.
    - OpenBSD has one of the best IPsec implementation, it's also IPv6 ready
    - You can get help from myself, Ashcrow and Kint
    - The blowfish just looks cool
    - There are releases every 6 months (June 1st and December 1st), so you can plan an upgrade better than with FreeBSD (which had to delay FreeBSD 4.5 by ~3-4 weeks and delayed 5.0 by 14 months). *Also, new releases rarely contain a buttload of new features. *Usually: 3-4 new good features, other minor features, couple of thousand bugfixes and security fixes and new 3rd party applications (ports + binary packages) and new hardware support.
    - OpenBSD 3.0 supports 10 architectures (including x86, macppc, sparc64 and alpha). *FreeBSD 4.5 supports 2.
    - EVERY network card is supported by OpenBSD (there's a guy who just does that)
    - /etc cannot be modified by packages
    - There's no /usr/local/etc like in FreeBSD
    - It installs with only one floppy (which is more convienent than 2 for FreeBSD)
    - You have the option to escape to a shell during the install
    - sudo and XFree86 are better integrated with the system than in FreeBSD

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    Re: FreeBSD or OpenBSD

    Wow, those are quite a few good reasons. My next question is how easy is it to install. Will I be able to get the installation files, and other packages for that matter, over a NZ server?

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    Re: FreeBSD or OpenBSD

    ncftp /pub/OpenBSD/3.0/i386 > ls -l *.tgz bsd
    -r--r--r-- 1 12187 mirror 23469942 Oct 19 15:58 base30.tgz
    -r--r--r-- 1 12187 mirror 16315830 Oct 19 15:58 comp30.tgz
    -r--r--r-- 1 12187 mirror 1075078 Oct 19 15:58 etc30.tgz
    -r--r--r-- 1 12187 mirror 2772511 Oct 19 15:58 game30.tgz
    -r--r--r-- 1 12187 mirror 5641583 Oct 19 15:58 man30.tgz
    -r--r--r-- 1 12187 mirror 1704594 Oct 19 15:58 misc30.tgz
    -r--r--r-- 1 12187 mirror 8853776 Oct 19 15:58 xbase30.tgz
    -r--r--r-- 1 12187 mirror 30471502 Oct 19 15:58 xfont30.tgz
    -r--r--r-- 1 12187 mirror 21536096 Oct 19 15:58 xserv30.tgz
    -r--r--r-- 1 12187 mirror 1683519 Oct 19 15:58 xshare30.tgz
    -r--r--r-- 1 12187 mirror 4332626 Oct 19 15:58 bsd
    ncftp /pub/OpenBSD/3.0/i386 >
    These are the packs you can install. The ones which are _needed_:
    bsd
    etc30.tgz
    base30.tgz

    This accounts to ~28 megs. If you add compilers, man pages and misc (which you should) you get 52 megs. Not too much to download.

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    Re: FreeBSD or OpenBSD

    Not a matter of size, I have to pay for international traffic. Well I do where I will be downloading it. I have found it on a NZ ftp server but don't know how often it is updated, and from looking at the OpenBSD site it doesn't look like they have a NZ mirror, which means it is unofficial and therefore unsupported. Am I right in that?
    Also will my TNT2 work, and will my VIA based onboard soundcard work?

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    Re: FreeBSD or OpenBSD

    There's no official NZ mirror (there's one in australia though). You TNT2 card should work, but don't expect 3D, it's not what OpenBSD is about. I don't know about the VIA soundcard. I use OpenBSD for servers/firewall purposes only

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    Re: FreeBSD or OpenBSD

    I don't really care about 3D, I just want to have a half decent looking system. And if it only supports it with 16 colours and at 640*480, then it would kind of make learning it painful. The sound isn't all that important either. I don't really need an official mirror though do I? If I found out what packages I wanted I could just download them individually couldn't I. And where are the best install instructions? Thanks for all the help

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    Re: FreeBSD or OpenBSD

    No you don't need an official mirror, just use the autralian one. The best guide is covered in the FAQ on www.openbsd.org . You can also try mine: http://darkhost.mine.nu:81/openbsd-en.html

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    Re: FreeBSD or OpenBSD

    I am pretty sure the sound card should work fine but it will need to be configured. OpenBSD is the way to go!

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    Re: FreeBSD or OpenBSD

    And yeah, once your system is installed, you can download binary packages or use the ports system to add new applications.

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