Shell Script is messed up from opening in Kwrite?

**vwgtiturbo** · 06-18-2006, 07:19 PM

I am in a bit of a bind... I soon tired of opening my super long backup script in vi, so while I was logged in, I opened it in KWrite. Well, now, I can see these little tick marks at the beginning of each line that has characters. Now, that isn't a problem in itself, but the script is now inop. WOW, I mean, this thing is doing all sorts of craziness. I am wondering if opening it in KWrite messed it up, as far as different new lines/carriage returns, and if I can salvage it. Any help would be AWESOME, so that I don't have to retype this bohemoth. Thanks!

**redhead** · 06-18-2006, 08:10 PM

if it's caused by CRLF instead of *nix LF, then this should sort it out:

# cat file | perl -pe 's/\015//' >! new_file

or

# cat file | col -bf >! new_file

But from your description of little tick marks at the beginning of each line that has characters. dosn't sound to me like a LF/CRLF issue.. Normaly that would provide '^M' at the end of each line..

**vwgtiturbo** · 06-19-2006, 03:47 PM

I am an idiot... I still don't know what the little marks are... I am thinking that they might be because the line wraps to the next, but I am not sure. Anyways, I noticed that I missed a " mark in the script (which is odd, because it was working just fine the other day, and I don't recall having messed with it), AND for some odd reason, I had the script trying to do some SSH commands... before the remote server was even awakened. Geez...
I will fix these minor issues, and hopefully, all will be well. Hopefully...

**Compunuts** · 06-20-2006, 07:09 AM

See, that's why you never use WYSIWYG writers. If you want GUI, use something like GVIM, GEDIT or KEDIT.

**vwgtiturbo** · 06-20-2006, 03:50 PM

I am a little confused (sorry...). The only time I have ever heard of WYSIWYG editing, is when referenced to web design, and I totally agree. I do all of my pages by hand in a text editor, with the exception of hyperlinks (if the page has a lot of links, I prefer to open it in Dreamweaver, as you can just click and drag to establish a link... MUCH faster than me typing 200 links). How does KWrite qualify as WYSIWYG? It has syntax highlighting, so if anything, I should have noticed that things were screwy when parts of my script were the wrong color... Do the other editors show special symbols and such (like new lines, carriage returns, etc..)? If that is the case, then maybe I SHOULD use one of those editors, so I can at least see what is going on. I mean, I have a HAIR of experience, but when something goes wrong, I can sometimes be a little screwed. Maybe using one of these editors would help educated me...

**redhead** · 06-20-2006, 04:28 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WYSIWYG
Basicaly it's creating a nice surface where you see what a "printed version" would look like, meaning any hidden codes to change text styles and such are not visible.
It's like combining typing a LaTeX document in vi as opposed to making it in LyX
Meaning after opening, saving from a WYSIWYG editor, it might convert/add something to the document in orer to know, exactly how to show it to you, but in a shell script, where every char is vital, it might screw it up.

//edit
For realy keeping an eye out on what is happening, Lawrence Mitchell has written an emacs mode for showing whitespaces, newlines, tabs etc. Originaly it was ment as a help for programming in whitespace, but I guess it would be useful here aswell.

**vwgtiturbo** · 06-20-2006, 08:38 PM

Interesing... It all makes sense, really. I have never messed with emacs. I didn't even really know what it is. I thought it had something to do with programming (not from a text editor position) so I never bothered with it, since learning to program is about... oh, number 273 on my list of 'to-dos'.

**redhead** · 06-21-2006, 06:00 AM

Emacs is everything rolled up into one interface..
(not that I'm trying to turn this into a vi(m)/emacs war)
It uses the LISP programming language to provide the user with a powerfull engine, which you can shape into any desired action/handling of virtualy any type.

**Compunuts** · 06-21-2006, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by redhead

(not that I'm trying to turn this into a vi(m)/emacs war)

Ah, too late, you said it first ... :P

Actually for some reason, EMacs never stick to my taste. I get everything I need in shell editing in Vim or gedit. If I need WYSIWYG editors, then I go with AbiWord or KWrite. I think some REALLY appreciate what Emacs does but just not my taste of things I guess.

**cga** · 06-21-2006, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Compunuts

Ah, too late, you said it first ... :P

Actually for some reason, EMacs never stick to my taste. I get everything I need in shell editing in Vim or gedit. If I need WYSIWYG editors, then I go with AbiWord or KWrite. I think some REALLY appreciate what Emacs does but just not my taste of things I guess.

Honestly, for shell editing I am perfectly happy to use Pico or Nano. But I am a simpleton.