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    SunDevil
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    Need a decent window manager

    I recently switched from windows.

    On linux i have used KDE and Gnome, but they both seem a bit sluggish compared to windows. Most programs under linux are slow anyway and that adds to the slowness feeling of the windowmanager. Why do i have to wait 8 seconds before i can see my browser after starting it?

    Someone suggested blackbox, which is fast, but a bit too minimal for my taste. I would have loved it if there was an easy way of seeing what i am running and switching between programs.

    Can anyone suggest a window manager that will suit my needs?

  2. #2

    Re:Need a decent window manager

    let the flame war begin!!

    i use rox - http://rox.sourceforge.net
    it aims to be like risc OS from the acorn.
    whatdoyougetwhenyoumultiplysixbynine??

  3. #3
    LiNuts
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    Re:Need a decent window manager

    blackbox/fluxbox - IceWM these all have small footprints and do not hog resources.
    cheers
    LiNuts

  4. #4
    SunDevil
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    Re:Need a decent window manager

    I've tried fluxbox, but basically it's blackbox only some file are named different. Blackbox is fast (as far as linux goes) but the interface sucks. There is no way to switch between apps fast (like with a taskbar) there is no decent way to get your menu when you have anything running fullscreen, no clock,..blah blah. Its bascially not a windowmanager.

    iceWM is nice, but with the default settings it blows. iceWM itself is terrible slow at loading/rendering windows eventhough the makers claim it has been written as a fast WM ?!? Asside from manually walking through the 300 settings in the prefs-file there is no way to configure it. Eventhough i have read all the docs i still do not know how the get rid of the annoying eth and processor graphs in my taskbar. The programs that give an interface for configuration don't seem to be ready yet or give no information whatsoever about installation (if configure && make && make install doesn't work, its over my head)

    So, the quest for a decent WM continous.

    I am guessing X or linux is too slow to get a decent-fast wm like windows is. The more i work with linux the more i am starting to like windows.

  5. #5

    Re:Need a decent window manager

    if you want just a task bar, try fspanel
    http://www.chatjunkies.org/fspanel/
    whatdoyougetwhenyoumultiplysixbynine??

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    Re:Need a decent window manager

    well, i am not sure why your computer runs KDE so slow. i run both KDE and Enlightenment, and E is only a hair faster. KDE zooms for me. maybe you need to tinker with X a little bit to optimize it a bit. or maybe you are in a pinch for ram, of which linux is usually pretty conservative with, when it needs to be. either way, i am no sure what to tell you. keep trying. i will look into some X optimizations, and see if any can apply to you.

  7. #7
    SunDevil
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    Re:Need a decent window manager

    it's a PIII800 with 256MB ram. Shouldn't give any problems.
    I dunno, maybe i am spoiled , but it bothers me i have to wait so long for an app to start.

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    Re:Need a decent window manager

    The reason why Windows loads it's web browser up so fast is because from boot time it loads Explorer.exe which runs MSIE. The web browser it about the only thing in Linux that should take a while to load. Other then that most of your apps should come up within 1-2 secs tops no matter what WM you use.
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    SunDevil
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    Re:Need a decent window manager

    I know it preloads the browser. I was still going to look for that in linux. mozilla for windows has this -turbo option to preload it. Still havent had time to look into that.

    Am i right in assuming the app-startup-speed comes from the WM, or from X?
    or from the app itself?
    or linux?

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    Re:Need a decent window manager

    The application startup speed is based on what the application needs to load. If the application needs to load thousands of shared libraries, then I'm sorry it's going to take a long time, however if the application only needs to load a few things in order to get itself started, then it should be rather quick. X, and your WM should have nothing to do with the speed at which your application loads. They just provide responsiveness to your interface.
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