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Thread: Scripts kiddies

  1. #1
    Bogler
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    Scripts kiddies

    Having read the "What distro now" thread i wondered if any of our teenage friends have engaged in any, erm, scripting.

    Have any of you written scripts, run code to find vulnerabilities in firewalls etc out there?

    How common is this?... if i was 15 now i would probably be doing it all the time! (bit of a wild child me in my younger days 8)

    Anyway, just interested, i would quite like to try it myself.

    On the same note, has anyone been hacked maliciously? What happened to your system, what is commonly done? Is it mostly anti-M$ hacking?

    I must admit that part of the attraction of Linux is having the tools to hack! I know you have to be a bit of a propellor head but Linux gives you the opportunity.

    Take it easy

    Bogler


  2. #2

    Re:Scripts kiddies

    Not a teenager anymore...but I've never been interested in it...I've always been interested in programming...been doing that for a long time...but more for applications and stuff....not malicious software.... :-\

    Aragorn
    If you give a man a fire he'll be warm, if you light the man on fire he'll be warm for life.

  3. #3
    nfallon
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    Re:Scripts kiddies

    I doubt that it's just MS hacking. The majority of web sites are Linux/Unix based. Last week my wife's credit card company called and asked her if she made a 5,000 dollar donation to a charity on her credit card. The pay pal site was hacked and someone was using the credit card info that they got. PayPal is a Linux?Unix site.

    Neil

  4. #4
    TomP
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    Re:Scripts kiddies

    It is not just kids.
    Several attempts to maliciously hack me have occurred..
    And as I use a dialup ISP, one would have to think that
    it is not just script kiddies.
    No, I have been pinged and probed by several interesting
    IP's (when later looked up), many of them through the
    AsiaPacific region, though origin a lot harder to determine.
    I had a firewall reconfigured once, another time it was
    dismantled. And I have been pinged by some "official"
    sounding addresses, consistently, with a pattern. When
    I have a firewall that three scan sites assured me kept me in
    stealth mode.
    It got so bad, it forced me to move to Linux, so perhaps I
    should be grateful...because in Windows I was a sitting duck.
    I had to constantly remove webbugs, too...
    I am no one, with no information worth anything (in my
    computer, anyway) and so I have been wondering if I was
    an isolated incidence.

    Oh, and one more incident: I watched someone go up and
    down all my ports, probing, on two occassions when I went
    to download SERMONS. I never could figure that one out!

    Remember, dynamic IP. And still these events...

    Tom


  5. #5
    JimH
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    Re:Scripts kiddies

    This is one of my favorites that It get hits from all the time. At least some of the script kiddies might be "real kiddies" Take note of the "Bumgye Elementary School" below in the whois output. I included the entire output for those unfamiliar with whois.

    $ whois -h whois.apnic.net 210.97.5.252
    [whois.apnic.net]

    % Rights restricted by copyright. See http://www.apnic.net/db/dbcopyright.html
    % (whois6.apnic.net)

    inetnum: 210.96.0.0 - 210.97.191.255
    netname: KRNIC-KR
    descr: KRNIC
    descr: Korea Network Information Center
    country: KR
    admin-c: HM127-AP
    tech-c: HM127-AP
    remarks: ******************************************
    remarks: KRNIC is the National Internet Registry
    remarks: in Korea under APNIC. If you would like to
    remarks: find assignment information in detail
    remarks: please refer to the KRNIC Whois DB
    remarks: http://whois.nic.or.kr/english/index.html
    remarks: ******************************************
    mnt-by: APNIC-HM
    mnt-lower: MNT-KRNIC-AP
    changed: hostmaster@apnic.net 19980521
    changed: hostmaster@apnic.net 20010606
    source: APNIC

    person: Host Master
    address: Korea Network Information Center
    address: Narajongkeum B/D 14F, 1328-3, Seocho-dong, Seocho-ku, Seoul, 137-070, Republic of Korea
    country: KR
    phone: +82-2-2186-4500
    fax-no: +82-2-2186-4496
    e-mail: hostmaster@nic.or.kr
    nic-hdl: HM127-AP
    mnt-by: MNT-KRNIC-AP
    changed: hostmaster@nic.or.kr 20010514
    source: APNIC

    inetnum: 210.97.5.128 - 210.97.5.255
    netname: BUMGYE-E-KR
    descr: Bumgye Elementary School
    descr: 1052-1 Bumgye-dong Dongan-gu Anyang-si
    descr: KYONGGI
    descr: 431-080
    country: KR
    admin-c: MS131-KR
    tech-c: MS132-KR
    remarks: This IP address space has been allocated to KRNIC.
    remarks: For more information, using KRNIC Whois Database
    remarks: whois -h whois.nic.or.kr
    remarks: This information has been partially mirrored by APNIC from
    remarks: KRNIC. To obtain more specific information, please use the
    remarks: KRNIC whois server at whois.krnic.net.
    mnt-by: MNT-KRNIC-AP
    changed: hostmaster@nic.or.kr 20020225
    source: KRNIC

    person: myungsu Son
    country: KR
    phone: 0343-83-7234
    fax-no: 0343-81-0069
    e-mail: kgromc@soback.kornet21.net
    nic-hdl: MS131-KR
    remarks: This information has been partially mirrored by APNIC from
    remarks: KRNIC. To obtain more specific information, please use the
    remarks: KRNIC whois server at whois.krnic.net.
    mnt-by: MNT-KRNIC-AP
    changed: hostmaster@nic.or.kr 20020225
    source: KRNIC

    Jim H

  6. #6
    Spot
    Guest

    Re:Scripts kiddies

    This is one of my favorites that It get hits from all the time. At least some of the script kiddies might be "real kiddies" Take note of the "Bumgye Elementary School" below in the whois output. I included the entire output for those unfamiliar with whois.
    <snip>
    Those are most likely just open proxies, whether intentional or not.

  7. #7
    JimH
    Guest

    Re:Scripts kiddies

    Quote Originally Posted by Spot
    Those are most likely just open proxies, whether intentional or not.
    Not likely in this case. An open proxy is not likely to generate refused connection attempts to sshd.

    Feb 27 13:52:59 penguin sshd[30018]: refused connect from 210.97.5.252 (210.97.5.252)
    I log other hits from the same ip. They do not appear to be just random hits.

    Jim H

  8. #8
    jmbrinks
    Guest

    Re:Scripts kiddies

    Script Kiddie refers to age, but more from an experience level standpoint. You can be 65 and still be a script kiddie.

    Script kiddies just download port scanners and other hacking tools from the web and use them in a very broad manner.

    They don't have a plan, an intended target, or much real knowledge of what they are doing. They just download tools for scanning and probing and run them indisciminately. No skill required.

    If it weren't for the tools created and available to them, they would just be your average web surfer / email checker.

  9. #9
    JimH
    Guest

    Re:Scripts kiddies

    Quote Originally Posted by jmbrinks
    Script Kiddie refers to age, but more from an experience level standpoint. You can be 65 and still be a script kiddie.
    Yeah, I know. I just couldnt resist since the IP address just happens to be assigned to an Elementary School.

    Jim H

  10. #10
    jmbrinks
    Guest

    Re:Scripts kiddies

    Have to start them off young. The upcoming generation will be most dangerous, plenty of computing power and its something they have always had.

    You may have been probed by the next generation Kevin........

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