Burning Debian ISO's Right Now

[johnqpublic]

I downloaded them last night.Have 3 ISO to burn.So, anything I should know before I attempt to install?This will be my first Debian install,well besides Libranet.Since I'm a newbie will this be difficult for me?

[paradox]

ahhh, welcome to the wonderful world of apt-get. Beats the shiznit out of rpm's! (sorry JimH) Only hint I have for your install is select the VERY bare minimum and then install a custom system by using apt-get. This is truly the only way to go, it makes everything so much easier!

Aragorn

[JimH]

ahhh, welcome to the wonderful world of apt-get. Beats the shiznit out of rpm's! (sorry JimH)

LOL, rpm could learn a few things from apt-get. ;D

[johnqpublic]

Puttin Debian on the back burner for now,since I have some other projects going.I'll get to some day.

[sarge7141]

hay man i love just using the recovery, root, and 4dirver disks. this gives
me a working system to customize with apt-get

apt-get rocks

on a side note why does'nt apt get and rpm combine so you can apt-get rpms?

sarge7141

[x0xCRIZx0x]

ahhh, welcome to the wonderful world of apt-get. Beats the shiznit out of rpm's! (sorry JimH) Only hint I have for your install is select the VERY bare minimum and then install a custom system by using apt-get. This is truly the only way to go, it makes everything so much easier!

Aragorn

Not sure about apt-get, cuz I've only seen screenies of it. But rpm's have urmpi. On a mandrake system, creating sources/downloading/dependency checking/installing are done with urpmi. addmedia and urpmi packagename.

Does apt-get do something else other than the forementioned capabilites of urpmi? Just wondering.

[JimH]

on a side note why does'nt apt get and rpm combine so you can apt-get rpms?

sarge7141

There is a project to port apt-get to rpm based distributions. It was briefly mentioned in another thread on the site somewhere.

Jim H

[sarge7141]

there are no plans that i saw but it would be smart to have one package
standard and i hope it is apt-get.

[JimH]

there are no plans that i saw but it would be smart to have one package
standard and i hope it is apt-get.

Hmmm, I can't find the link on the board either. Maybe it was somewhere else. :P
Anyway here the link again.

http://apt4rpm.sourceforge.net/

ou can find rpm's for Red Hat and a little information here.

http://freshrpms.net/apt/

Jim H

[debianfoo]

I downloaded them last night.Have 3 ISO to burn.So, anything I should know before I attempt to install?This will be my first Debian install,well besides Libranet.Since I'm a newbie will this be difficult for me?

Debian install is very simple and straight forward.
I don't know why everyone is talking about apt-get to a newbie.

Burning the cd, or cds and then during the installation, you should configure the partitions yourself : debian installation partitions configuration is very flexible, only take care not to look for extended partition (once you've done 3 primary parts) the term is logical (while other systems will allow to create the 4th as Extended in which you'll create your logical parts)

You can have how many logical parts you want in the space left outside the 3 primary parts, you can mount one as /data (editing the mount point yourself, as well as the label, and its attributes: user_xattr )
and later make that part shared by all others systems installed already or in the future + your network.

Once installed and rebooted (with cd out of cd-rom) you can check your /boot/grub/menu.lst and keep a copy of it for adding to it an entry to multi-boot later every newly installed systems, asa you install them, so your debian menu is the menu multi-booting all the systems.

when you create your partitions,
you put /boot on a primary part and bootable, from the 1st cylinder with a size between 80MB doesn't need to be > 600 MB. ( only if you install linux next to Windows, you need to install the grub in the MBR) I think you are given the option once partitions are done.

just for example on a laptop with XP on hda1
size used space left
/dev/hda3 5.1G 754M 4.1G 16% /
/dev/ hda2 649M 35M 582M 6% /boot
/dev/hda6 5.5G 141M 5.1G 3% /shared
/dev/hda5 5.1G 1.8G 3.1G 37% /usr
/dev/hda7 900MB /swap

I could have done them smaller, just I don't know how many packages I'll install in the future, I don't want to be running out of space. I still have enough space for another 2 linux on the drive. xp is now on 9GB.
so you see you don't need a lot of space disk for debian.

And as a newbie myself, I update with the GUI:
with the synaptic package manager, from the Applications submenu.
I think that once installed, the new user needs to have a look around the system, there is plenty to do before using apt-get.

once insalled take a look at your booting menu:
read the menu.lst file
more /boot/grub/menu.lst or cat /boot/grub/menu.lst

copy it to your home dir
cp /boot/grub/menu.lst menu

list the contents of your /boot
me@mysystem:~$ ls -l /boot
total 18072
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 70781 2007-05-09 23:14 config-2.6.18-4-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 70658 2007-10-03 00:31 config-2.6.18-5-686
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-11-18 20:49 grub
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4901099 2007-11-18 20:49 initrd.img-2.6.18-4-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4495651 2007-11-18 20:06 initrd.img-2.6.18-4-686.bak
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4901677 2007-11-18 20:49 initrd.img-2.6.18-5-686
drwx------ 2 root root 16384 2007-11-18 19:41 lost+found
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 722037 2007-05-10 05:14 System.map-2.6.18-4-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 722899 2007-10-03 05:49 System.map-2.6.18-5-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1261213 2007-05-10 05:14 vmlinuz-2.6.18-4-686
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1260158 2007-10-03 05:49 vmlinuz-2.6.18-5-686

or ls -l /
ls -l /
total 92
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-11-18 20:34 bin
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2007-11-18 20:49 boot
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2007-11-18 20:03 cdrom -> media/cdrom
drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4540 2007-11-21 09:57 dev
drwxr-xr-x 106 root root 4096 2007-11-21 09:58 etc
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2007-11-19 12:34 home
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-11-18 20:05 initrd
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 2007-11-18 20:49 initrd.img -> boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-5-686
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 2007-11-18 20:06 initrd.img.old -> boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-4-686
drwxr-xr-x 16 root root 12288 2007-11-18 20:58 lib
drwx------ 2 root root 16384 2007-11-18 20:02 lost+found
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2007-11-21 09:58 media
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-10-28 15:06 mnt
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-11-18 20:05 opt
dr-xr-xr-x 115 root root 0 2007-11-21 09:56 proc
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 2007-11-18 21:34 root
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-11-18 20:43 sbin
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-03-07 22:56 selinux
drwxrwxrwx 4 root users 4096 2007-11-20 07:33 shared**
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-11-18 20:05 srv
drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 0 2007-11-21 09:56 sys
drwxrwxrwt 9 root root 4096 2007-11-21 10:43 tmp
drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 2007-11-18 20:27 usr
drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 2007-11-18 20:39 var
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 2007-11-18 20:49 vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-5-686
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 2007-11-18 20:06 vmlinuz.old -> boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-4-686

** the shared is the partitions used as data, mounted during partitioning.
you won't find this one in your system, all other files and dir above will be in your system.

take a look at your /dev to see all the drives,

also read your /etc/fstab
more /etc/fstab and press q to leave and come back to the prompt
or
cat /etc/fstab
and so on......
learn how to navigate in your file system using the terminal and most of all, Enjoy yourself.