Ok, I have worked around it....now all browsers should be able to see the rollovers and thingies right where they are supposed to be....I am having a problem with the mini Tux sitting on top of the GLO links, so that is my next project....you'll probably still experience rollover problems on other pages after the main one because I am slowly upgrading those.....augh....browser issues are a pain! Oh BTW JimH I found the linuxnews thing you were talking about....It was a cloaking layer for search engines that I had entered in there...but obviously NETSCAPE<GRRR> won't allow layers to be put off of the screen....sooooo I have erased that....thanks for all the feedback, if you have any more please let me know!