Well, I installed Ximian Desktop 2 on my SuSE 9 laptop. I will now eat crow about the bad things I have said about Gnome. Wow- Gnome has come a long way since I last used it. I am forced to agree with LC and eveyone else as far as usablity is concerned- Gnome is way better than KDE in that respect and I have serious doubts that I will be using KDE anymore.