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    Re:What kinda music will survive?

    [quote author=Mountainman link=board=17;threadid=8841;start=0#msg79846 date=1079357160]
    Most "American" music is a derivitive of bluegrass. From bluegrass, came country, from country came rock, and from rock, came the mindless crap that plays on the radio today. Personnally I enjoy bluegrass much more than anything on the radio. If I wanted to listen to mindless drivel all day I would stay at work...
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    Bluegrass?

    Actually, bluegrass is a mix of folk, country, blues, and gospel that didnt come to be until the early 1920s, where it was known as "Hillbilly Music", and then "Old Time Country Music". Jazz as we know it was first acknowledged around the mid 1800s (in America at least)

    I would have to agree that classical and jazz are universally accepted and will stand the test of time.

    Rap music is just another form of pop music, spawned from Hip-Hop. While I dont care for rap, there are a lot of viable hip-hop artists out there that create quality music, its just not heard by the masses. I credit that to the audience, most American listeners dont like to think about what they are listening to. Its a harsh reality, especially when these same artist that only sell 150K in America, make millions overseas.

    Country music has also spawned a "pop child". Though its still referred to as "Country Music", sometimes "Country Pop". Artists like Leann Rimes, The Dixie Chicks and Shania Twain headline this genre. I personally dont listen to country music, but Id be more inclined to purchase a Shania Twain record than a Conway Twitty one. That says nothing about the quality of the music, just my opinion.

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    Re:What kinda music will survive?

    Other : The music in pornos.

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    Re:What kinda music will survive?

    Classic rock and classical. Stuff like zeppelin will be around for a long time, I hope.

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    Re:What kinda music will survive?

    [quote author=Slave Copy link=board=17;threadid=8841;start=0#msg79886 date=1079393388]
    Other : The music in pornos.
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    I have no choice but to agree....

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    Re:What kinda music will survive?

    But not on it's own merit...

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    Re:What kinda music will survive?

    i have been calling country music cockroach music for years because even after a nuclear explosion the cockroach still survives, like country music quietly still hanging in there...

    country music has it's own channel! All country all day, my cable system took off techtv and replaced it with country music and religous channels. I live 20 minutes outside of nyc and i cant get techtv!!!!

    i blame it all on country music!!!

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    Re:What kinda music will survive?

    As long as almost everything that's currently played on MTV dies a quick and painful death I really don't care.

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    Re:What kinda music will survive?

    [quote author=Lovechild link=board=17;threadid=8841;start=0#msg80033 date=1079539122]
    As long as almost everything that's currently played on MTV dies a quick and painful death I really don't care.
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    haha i second that

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    Re:What kinda music will survive?

    well i listen to a lot of hiphop and even commercial rap as well... i listen to real hiphop because it truelly is an art form. i listen to commercial rap because to me it just sounds good and sometimes you wanna listen to music without having to think about it.

    there are a lot of hiphop artists with deep and meaningful lyrics (eg: Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Common, Afu Ra, Cormega, Andre from Outkast, Guru, J Live, Pharoah Monch, Ras Kass, and many many more) and if you listen to these people's lyrics then you _know_ it's art

    but how can art be defined? with rapping (and i mean the activity of reciting lyrics to the beat) there are basically 2 very different things i pay attention to. One is the lyrics, the other is the delivery. In hiphop you generally get the better lyrics, in rap you generally get the better delivery. Both of these can be art IMO.

    hiphop artists like the one i mentioned above generally have better lyrics but the delivery is not a 'spectacular' as you get in commercial rap. Of course there are exceptions (like Pharoah Monch... his delivery is nothing short of amazing and so are his lyrics).

    in commercial rap the lyrics are often negative, but the delivery itself can be so amazing that it could also be considered as art. When i listen to Snoop Dogg's lyrics i'm not looking for something deep or meaningful... i'm looking for entertainment. Snoop's delivery (especially on his first album) is amazing and it's a skill that deserves respect because there are very few people who can do it that well. this goes for quite a few commercial rappers

    another thing to consider with commercial rap is that the lyrics might not have a positive meaning, they can be constructed in a very impressing way. commercial rappers can say stuff in their lyrics that is just controversial (like Eminem for example) but a lot of them make up for it with the way the verses are constructed. sometimes it just blows me away how they formulate their rhymes even if the message behind it is not positive.

    and don't forget that a lot of these commercial rappers can also spit some really meaningful shit. 2Pac for example... 2Pac was probably the most versatile rapper ever. He had the commercial shit, he had the negative messages, he had the party tracks, but he also had a lot of positive songs. Even Jay-Z has a lot of songs with positive meanings. Anyway, i think this sums it up nicely:

    For those that think Hov' fingers bling bling'n
    Either haven't heard the album or they don't know english
    They only know what the single is, and singled that out
    to be the meaning of what he is about
    And bein I'm about my business, not minglin much
    runnin my mouth, that shit kept lingerin
    But no dummy, that's the shit I'm sprinklin
    the album with to keep the registers ringin
    that's a quote from Jay-Z in one of his songs... btw, Hov is a reference to himself.


    anyway, i think i've said enough on this subject... i think people should think twice before making statements about a musical genre. Saying you don't like a genre is OK because after all everybody is entitled to their own opinion. But disrespecting an entire genre usually means you don't know what you're talking about. it would be like me making derogatory (sp?) comments about metal or country. i don't like it but i don't know enough about it to disrespect it so i won't.

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    Re:What kinda music will survive?

    Rock 'n Roll is/was heavily influenced by Blues not by Jazz. Don't believe me? Led Zeppelin -- Blues, Cream -- Blues, The Doors -- Blues/Jazz, Elvis -- Blues/Gospel, etc ... There are alot more influences than just Blues/Jazz but Rock has been primarily been influenced by Blues, that and Bob Dylan .

    I'm not sure which, if any, of the current genres will survive the test of time, but alot of the ones you've list have already survived the test. Metal, Classical, R & B, Country/Blue Grass, Pop, they've all been around for a long time. You could argue that Techno/Rap has also been around for a while too, round 20 years, but I'm not sure what you'd call a long time.

    If you guys would wander away from your TV/Radio sets you'd know that there are alot more artist then the ones that are shoved down your throats. I can't really relate to those of you who are bitter over some stiffs making money off the teenie boppers. Tons of good shit out there just gotta look .

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